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Newbiekellyfdewe-
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Gouache cracking?
on: November 28, 2013, 11:31
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I've been using Schminke Akademie gouache in white (http://www.schmincke.de/products/gouache/akademie-gouache.html?L=1) and have been noticing that it pretty consistently cracks a bit as it dries. I noticed when clicking around the Schminke website that I'm using artists' gouache and not calligraphy gouache specifically, which might be a contributing factor. Is this an issue for anyone when using the Schminke Calligraphy gouache? Do I just need to thin the gouache more perhaps (though it seems like then it would be less opaque and also thinner than what I keep reading is the correct consistency, i.e., a heavy cream)?

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NewbieEstefa
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: November 29, 2013, 09:17
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I use the Calligraphy Couache in White and also have only one other white ink (from Ziller). I think the Ziller Ink is also cracking a bit … imho the Call. G. doesn't crack when it dries, but I think it harder to work with than the ready-made Ziller ink. It kind of tends to come off the nib in blots. Yesterday I tried it with a little gum arabicum and that worked better.

I can't post pictures for some reason, so here you can have a look:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40036953@N04/sets/72157638170475715/

All the problems (the blots, the too fat or too dry upstrokes …) I had with the gouache are probably caused by my inexperience with gouache! But maybe you can jugde by the photos if this behaves differently from your gouache when dry at least, reagrding the cracking.

I am also very interested in finding a white that works dependably … maybe I just have to order one or both of the Dr. Ph. Martin's Whites from the US – it's just that not only the shipping costs are quite high, also one time I had to wait about 4 weeks for an order! I think it just sat in the customs tax office to be taxed …

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Newbiekellyfdewe-
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: December 9, 2013, 11:47
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It looks like yours is not cracking quite as much as mine does, interesting! I will have to give the Calligraphy Gouache a try and see if that works better.

I've ordered the Dr. Martin's Bleedproof White and will be picking it up when I'm back in the US at Christmas (would love it if shipping to Germany were not so expensive and noooo kidding about German customs! I have had packages sit there for ages). I'm curious to see how well I can work with it since so many people seem to love it!

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NewbieEstefa
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: December 10, 2013, 06:50
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Hi Kelly, thanks for your answer! Yes, it doesn't crack or nearly doesn't, but I am really not happy with the ink flow – mostly that it kind of pulls the ink in the upstroke after a shaded downstroke so that it gets too wide, or fat. Maybe that is just me :(. I have this problem with other pigmented inks.

So you are actually in Frankfurt! I had a look at your blog, lovely pics ;)! And yes, German customs are really a pain … About the Dr. Martin's Bleedproof White, I found out that blotspens in the UK offers it too! Ordering from them usually was superfast. I will also give it a try!

http://www.blotspens.co.uk/acatalog/calligraphy_inks_page.html

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Newbiekellyfdewe-
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: January 14, 2014, 17:03
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Hey Estefa, sorry for the long time between replies -- yup, I am indeed in Frankfurt, hopefully soon relocating to Nuremberg but def. still dealing with all of the fun that is ordering supplies to be shipped to Germany! You'd think with Schmincke being a German company in the first place it would be easy enough to get their calligraphy gouache here, but I have yet to see it in a store -- have you found it anyplace??

I JUST tried Dr. Ph Martin's Bleedproof White for the first time last night, and I think I like it! I followed Schin's tutorial for it:

http://openinkstand.tumblr.com/post/66238301646/hi-schin-i-really-love-your-blog-and-artwork-i-have

I'd used the brush application technique with other types of gouache and it seems to work quite well, but yes, Schin is definitely right about how quickly it dries on the nib!

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NewbieEstefa
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: January 14, 2014, 20:41
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Hi Kelly, no problem! Just saw your post – here are some adresses in Europe where you will find nearly everything: I like to order from

http://www.blotspens.co.uk/,

they have a great selection of calligraphy supplies (also for example acrylic inks like Ziller, which still seem to be not so well-known in Germany, and they are fast.

The very first supplier I came across when I started with calligraphy is

http://www.kallipos.de/gb-calligraphy-shop.html

here in Germany. I have often ordered from them, they also send most times an extra nib to try out which is very nice!

I buy iron gall ink and walnut ink from the Schenks in Switzerland, they make them themself and they are wonderful to write with:

http://www.kalligraphie.ch/store/index.php/cat/c54_Inks.html

For more special inks and also the Calligraphy Gouache from Schmincke, try this company:

http://www.kunstpark-shop.de/Kuenstlerbedarf/Gouache-Tempera/Schmincke-CALLIGRAPHY-Gouache.html

For paper etc. have a look at the Modulor website, or if you are in Berlin, go to the shop at Moritzplatz – dangerous though, haha, it's a "Groschengrab":

http://www.modulor.de/shop/oxid.php/sid/0325d78a9f7f7ef8aed0c26d3818666e/cl/start/tpl/-/lang/1

They have just about nearly everything paper-related among a LOT of other things.

So I guess except for specific Spencerian teaching materials and supplies like oblique holders you will find most things in a good quality here in Europe!

Thanks for the link to Schin's blog! I also have the Dr. Martin's Bleedproof by now and I think it works way better then white Gouache. So if I just want white I will use this. I just had a gorgeous workshop with wonderful Italian calligrapher Barbara Calzolari, she also uses only this when she needs White. She advised us to use it like this: she puts a little bit of distilled water in, stirs only the surface and then puts the liquid stuff with an eyedropper in a Dinky Dip, so that she can use it directly with dipping!

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Newbiekellyfdewe-
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: January 15, 2014, 14:56
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Ahhh I wish I had found out about Dinky Dips before I had already placed my order with Paper & Ink Arts in December, otherwise I would have gotten a set for sure! They seem so practical, and that's a great tip about Dr. Ph Martin's Bleedproof!

Also, thanks very much for all of those links -- I think I am going to have to establish a monthly calligraphy supplies budget now, as otherwise I'll end up with no money left over for eating...

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NewbieEstefa
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Re: Gouache cracking?
on: January 17, 2014, 13:58
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You're welcome - and yes, the Dinky Dips are really useful!

Haha, me too, about the budget thing … there is such a lot of interesting stuff to try out! But now I decided to work for a while only on my Copperplate and Spencerian letter forms, black and white, no frills … and enough to do for sure!

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